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surinhome
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Nice read, Alan. Truer words.....
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alan crisp
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I understand there is a dis-like for the red shirts, but aren't westerners here just the same as most middle-class Thai's in their way of thinking .Imagine being a Thai from a poor farming back ground with no hope for the future and along come a man that seems to care , even though you know he is corrupt you don't care because at least he helped you.!!
As Sin-Ming Shaw Say's "What Thaksin did for the poor required only political self-interest. Yet even that elementary wisdom has never occurred to traditional ruling elites too set in their myopic and arrogant ways. Until it does, Thailand’s otherwise promising future will be increasingly remote.
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As Sin-Ming Shaw Say's "What Thaksin did for the poor required only political self-interest. Yet even that elementary wisdom has never occurred to traditional ruling elites too set in their myopic and arrogant ways. Until it does, Thailand’s otherwise promising future will be increasingly remote.
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wildoates
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the problem is that someone needs to give the poor farming people a reality check. It can not contirue that they make a living doing a part time job. they need hundreds of rai of land to support the cost of farming and a family. not work for 4-5 months a year and expect the government to bail you out of loans, pay your bills, ect.
No hope for the future is because they don't want to work. why do you think big business does not move here, cause they want people to work everyday, not come for in for days becauxe of wedding, deaths, or sick cows.
they liked those that did not expect any more out of them than what they have done for years,
No hope for the future is because they don't want to work. why do you think big business does not move here, cause they want people to work everyday, not come for in for days becauxe of wedding, deaths, or sick cows.
they liked those that did not expect any more out of them than what they have done for years,
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Not even the Government can change the weather as most farming is seasonal.I know what you are saying Wildoates but the way we think and the way Thai's think are as different as chalk and cheese,you can't look at the Politics of Thailand and put a western take on it.And yes all we can do is comment ,its up to the Thai people how its going to turn out.
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This will never change course, unless the people deem it to be so.
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Getting back to T-Squared and the obvious socially engineered paradox that has been used in reference for the last 4 + years....on the fabricated surface, he {and his ilk} have been treated as a saviour or demon - depending on your political perspective, by everyone from the common dweller, to the opposition, to the pundit and scholar. Even long-understanding resident might have a lucid point one way or the other. But in the reality of what Thaksin was or was not {or is}, he truly is not much different from others before him and those in power whom want to cast a shadow upon is legacy. Outside of the surface, his government continued along the same path as others have and as they continue today. Some circles might consider T one and the same related to the 'ruling elite', as most don't care to imbibe very basic contemporary Thai history and it's simple relevance to what has manifested today. It's the great Thai paradox, an ends to a means. 'They' have manipulated the public opinion as to approve the ideals of Thaksin the boogeyman....as he was a truer insider and deeply/historically associated with same crowd. The surfaced proposals of his policies contradicted the real show below. He just ticked-off the wrong 'higher-ups', whom really control the game.
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I recall, the years back, when Thaksin made his play for power - as he was confirmed PM and later, Caretaker....the zealoutry that overcame most circles of him becoming the great emancipator. From the common folk, journalists, contemporaries {politicians}, the business-corporate community, scholars and pundits of every description....all {or most} were taken in by the same old scallywag shenanigans as his predecessors continued to be.
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No it's not the same. You just assume that it might be - instinctively observing most everything through Eurocentric perspectives and conditioning...