The Naga Fireball Phenomenon

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Great Balls of Fire! The Naga Fireball Phenomenon


Photo: Thailand Tourism Authority

Around the full moon at the end of the Buddhist Lent in October, tens of thousands of people make the trek to a cool, misty expanse where the mighty Mekong River marks the border between Thailand and Laos. They’re there to witness firsthand a phenomenon that has been observed for at least 100 years – the mysterious Naga Fireball. A conclusive explanation of the event has yet to be agreed upon. During this event visitors say that one can see balls of light shoot up from the river, rising high up into the night sky along a 250 km stretch east of the Laos capital Vientiane and Thailand’s popular border town of Nong Khai, which sit near each other on opposite sides of the Mekong. Some years, people will see hundreds of Naga Fireballs in a night, other years only a dozen or so across many nights.


A ceremony honouring the seven-headed Naga Serpent.

Legend says that the fireballs are produced by the Naga, a large mythical serpent that features prominently in Laotian mythology and culture, but for years skeptics have been trying to find an alternate explanation. In 2002 a Thai TV program claimed that the fireballs were produced by tracer fire from Laos. This was furiously refuted by local villagers on both sides of the river who were both offended at the insinuation that the Naga doesn’t exist, as well as the suggestion that they were trying to pull the wool over people’s eyes. Another explanation says that the fireballs are a result of flammable methane or phosphine gas generated by plant and animal life on the river bed, or even some sort of bioluminescent creatures flying off into the sky. But no matter which explanation you buy into, the only thing that’s for sure is that there’s been no definitive scientific explanation of the phenomenon either way, despite experts and high-tech equipment making the rounds every year.


Just one more reason for a party. Waiting for the sun to set and the fireballs to rise on the Thai side of the Mekong River.

Although the mysterious light-show has been happening for decades, it’s only since the early 1990s that people have begun to throng to the best viewing areas along the river banks, eating, drinking, dancing, and socializing in a Thai version of a tailgate party. Indeed, some savvy (unscrupulous?) people sometimes set off fireworks to the great delight of the crowd, no doubt keeping the masses there to cheer, and wait, and spend money.

This year’s Naga Fireball event on the Mekong River coincides with the Oct. 8 full moon.

This year’s full moon will be on Wednesday October 8. The Smiling Albino team here on the ground in Bangkok can assist you with planning your travels around any of these unique Festivals found throughout Asia.

If you’re in Thailand or Laos in early October during the full moon, go take a look and see if you can explain it. Let us know what you come back with, because we’re not sure either!
 
I've been up there twice now. Saw Naga Fireballs both times. One time there were quite a lot. The other time just a few. They make no noise what-so-ever. There is no smoke, no flickering flame, and for the life of me I could not see any fakery or trickery. They just popped out of the river glowing and floated into the sky with nary a sound. Glad I saw them. Still believe it to be a sort of methane swamp gas. Eerie as all hell really. A nice time up there as well.

Mike


Great Balls of Fire! The Naga Fireball Phenomenon


Photo: Thailand Tourism Authority

Around the full moon at the end of the Buddhist Lent in October, tens of thousands of people make the trek to a cool, misty expanse where the mighty Mekong River marks the border between Thailand and Laos. They’re there to witness firsthand a phenomenon that has been observed for at least 100 years – the mysterious Naga Fireball. A conclusive explanation of the event has yet to be agreed upon. During this event visitors say that one can see balls of light shoot up from the river, rising high up into the night sky along a 250 km stretch east of the Laos capital Vientiane and Thailand’s popular border town of Nong Khai, which sit near each other on opposite sides of the Mekong. Some years, people will see hundreds of Naga Fireballs in a night, other years only a dozen or so across many nights.


A ceremony honouring the seven-headed Naga Serpent.

Legend says that the fireballs are produced by the Naga, a large mythical serpent that features prominently in Laotian mythology and culture, but for years skeptics have been trying to find an alternate explanation. In 2002 a Thai TV program claimed that the fireballs were produced by tracer fire from Laos. This was furiously refuted by local villagers on both sides of the river who were both offended at the insinuation that the Naga doesn’t exist, as well as the suggestion that they were trying to pull the wool over people’s eyes. Another explanation says that the fireballs are a result of flammable methane or phosphine gas generated by plant and animal life on the river bed, or even some sort of bioluminescent creatures flying off into the sky. But no matter which explanation you buy into, the only thing that’s for sure is that there’s been no definitive scientific explanation of the phenomenon either way, despite experts and high-tech equipment making the rounds every year.


Just one more reason for a party. Waiting for the sun to set and the fireballs to rise on the Thai side of the Mekong River.

Although the mysterious light-show has been happening for decades, it’s only since the early 1990s that people have begun to throng to the best viewing areas along the river banks, eating, drinking, dancing, and socializing in a Thai version of a tailgate party. Indeed, some savvy (unscrupulous?) people sometimes set off fireworks to the great delight of the crowd, no doubt keeping the masses there to cheer, and wait, and spend money.

This year’s Naga Fireball event on the Mekong River coincides with the Oct. 8 full moon.

This year’s full moon will be on Wednesday October 8. The Smiling Albino team here on the ground in Bangkok can assist you with planning your travels around any of these unique Festivals found throughout Asia.

If you’re in Thailand or Laos in early October during the full moon, go take a look and see if you can explain it. Let us know what you come back with, because we’re not sure either!
 
I've been up there twice now. Saw Naga Fireballs both times. One time there were quite a lot. The other time just a few. They make no noise what-so-ever. There is no smoke, no flickering flame, and for the life of me I could not see any fakery or trickery. They just popped out of the river glowing and floated into the sky with nary a sound. Glad I saw them. Still believe it to be a sort of methane swamp gas. Eerie as all hell really. A nice time up there as well.

Mike

I went 4/5 years ago with the family. Despite large quantities of Jamesons whiskey, left the river bank without seeing anything!.
 
what would ignite...

...the methane gas ? shrug1

Methane gas is released from many water location but they still require a source of ignition to become 'light'.
 
...the methane gas ? shrug1

Methane gas is released from many water location but they still require a source of ignition to become 'light'.


"Another explanation of the phenomenon is that the fireball is a result of flammable phosphine gas generated by the marshy environment."

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Science Ministry solves Naga fireballs mystery






The mystery behind the appearance of the Naga fireballs on the Mekong River has been finally solved, and it is a natural occurrence, the Science Ministry said yesterday. "The phenomenon is caused by flammable phosphine gas," deputy permanent secretary Saksit Tridech said. The ministry launched a scientific expedition on Friday to measure and observe the annual manifestation in Nong Khai province. A thermo-scanner was set up near the riverbank in Rattana Wapee sub-district and five teams of specialists were stationed at various vantage points along the river, including at Thai Temple in Phon Phisai district, where thousands of curious spectators had gathered to witness the event. The Naga fireballs appear at the end of Buddhist Lent, leading many to believe it is not the result of natural causes but something more mystical. But Saksit said the scanning equipment picked up the movement of the gas floating off the water surface before people could catch with their eyes the glowing orange bubbles igniting into fireballs. Their timing depends on the build-up of the marsh gas on the riverbed, which often peaked in October. Fireballs have been sighted at various times throughout the year in the Mekong and nearby areas with a high concentration of phosphine, he said. Napanisa Kaewmorakot NATION, NONG KHAI
 
"Another explanation of the phenomenon is that the fireball is a result of flammable phosphine gas generated by the marshy environment."

"
Science Ministry solves Naga fireballs mystery






The mystery behind the appearance of the Naga fireballs on the Mekong River has been finally solved, and it is a natural occurrence, the Science Ministry said yesterday. "The phenomenon is caused by flammable phosphine gas," deputy permanent secretary Saksit Tridech said. The ministry launched a scientific expedition on Friday to measure and observe the annual manifestation in Nong Khai province. A thermo-scanner was set up near the riverbank in Rattana Wapee sub-district and five teams of specialists were stationed at various vantage points along the river, including at Thai Temple in Phon Phisai district, where thousands of curious spectators had gathered to witness the event. The Naga fireballs appear at the end of Buddhist Lent, leading many to believe it is not the result of natural causes but something more mystical. But Saksit said the scanning equipment picked up the movement of the gas floating off the water surface before people could catch with their eyes the glowing orange bubbles igniting into fireballs. Their timing depends on the build-up of the marsh gas on the riverbed, which often peaked in October. Fireballs have been sighted at various times throughout the year in the Mekong and nearby areas with a high concentration of phosphine, he said. Napanisa Kaewmorakot NATION, NONG KHAI
But if this is true why is it on the same date each year .
 
Diphosphane (P2H4)

"Another explanation of the phenomenon is that the fireball is a result of flammable phosphine gas generated by the marshy environment."
Science Ministry solves Naga fireballs mystery
The mystery behind the appearance of the Naga fireballs on the Mekong River has been finally solved, and it is a natural occurrence, the Science Ministry said yesterday. "The phenomenon is caused by flammable phosphine gas," deputy permanent secretary Saksit Tridech said. The ministry launched a scientific expedition on Friday to measure and observe the annual manifestation in Nong Khai province. A thermo-scanner was set up near the riverbank in Rattana Wapee sub-district and five teams of specialists were stationed at various vantage points along the river, including at Thai Temple in Phon Phisai district, where thousands of curious spectators had gathered to witness the event. The Naga fireballs appear at the end of Buddhist Lent, leading many to believe it is not the result of natural causes but something more mystical. But Saksit said the scanning equipment picked up the movement of the gas floating off the water surface before people could catch with their eyes the glowing orange bubbles igniting into fireballs. Their timing depends on the build-up of the marsh gas on the riverbed, which often peaked in October. Fireballs have been sighted at various times throughout the year in the Mekong and nearby areas with a high concentration of phosphine, he said. Napanisa Kaewmorakot NATION, NONG KHAI

Diphosphane (P2H4) is highly combustible in air so if what is written above is true there must be elements of Diposphane (P2H4) mixed within the Phosphine (PH3) gas released from below the rivers surface.

I believe the Ministry of Science should state that fact for clarity.

Yes Cent, I believe that scenario begins to make cents...er, sense.
Mystery possibly solved.Awesome1
 
AtB, seek and you shall find.

But if this is true why is it on the same date each year .

You will not have to travel north to the Mekong.

Go talk with a monk locally where you are.
In fact, speak with Phra Daeng at Wat Phinom Phrai in the peaceful village of Phinom Phrai at a higher point outside of central Roi Et.
Spend a few days meditating during the October full moon Buddhist 'Lent' holiday of 'Or Pansa' and you will receive the information you seek from within , grasshopper.
Bow5
 
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All very scientific, Coffee, but does this stuff combust spontaneously? And, as AtB said, why at the same time every year?
 
All very scientific, Coffee, but does this stuff combust spontaneously? And, as AtB said, why at the same time every year?

P2H4 is a colorless liquid , one of several binary phosphorous hydrides.
It is the impurities that typically causes the phosphine to ignite in air.

As for why mostly during the month of October...maybe the rains during the monsoon season have something to do with it. I do not know.
That's why I suggested it might be best to talk with the monk :smile:

What did the Ministry say, IB ?
Aluminum, calcium and zinc phosphide pellets are utilized by various farming communities as fumigants.
Maybe the answers lies upstream.
 
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But if this is true why is it on the same date each year .




Al,

It's not on the same date every year, but in the same 'time period'. Some years there is very little or even no 'fireball' activity. Also, it does NOT happen in the same area each year. There are a number of spots along the river where this occurs. And not always in the same spot. There is a stretch of river though where it is more common than other areas.
It's been theorized (I read years ago) that there are sandbanks and sinkholes and such in certain areas of the river bed that collect debris that falls into the river, vegetation as well as animals that die and fall into the water or drown. This matter collects in these rifts in the river bed and produces the gasses. Not always in the same area, as the river bed is shifting from year to year along that stretch of the river.

I believe the suspected 'trickery' some say they have seen occurs in the years there is little to no 'fireball' activity. Why? Because many thousands of people come to see this phenomenon each year. It's a huge tourist draw, and loads of money is made from this annual 'festival' of the Naga Fireballs. It's a huge draw. I'd suggest the fakery is done in the lean years to keep the tradition alive and the people coming again and again. Like I said, it does not happen in the same area every year and is hard to predict, but there are certain hotspots where it 'usually' happens.

It's a natural phenomenon that is sometimes helped along by humans to keep the tourists happy and coming back. We have relatives who live nearby in Pehn who we stayed with that took us to the best spot where 'usually' there is some activity each year. One year was great and we saw loads of the fireballs. The next time we went there was only a few fireballs. It's hit or miss depending. But, it is something to see when it happens, and I would recommend taking the wife and kids to see it.

Mike
 
All very scientific, Coffee, but does this stuff combust spontaneously? And, as AtB said, why at the same time every year?


We have this in the states as well. Only we do not believe it comes from a mythical river monster, at least not these days. The American aboriginals had their stories and explanations in earlier times when they would see this similar phenomenon. Swamp gas, swamp 'ghosts', etc. It has even been seen as being 'UFOs' by some in more recent times.

Mike
 
The ones I saw went into the sky slowly. They could not have been 'tracer' bullets being fired into the sky. And, they did indeed seem to appear from under the water, popping into existence at the water's surface and then rising slowly into the sky.

The ones that I saw both times I was there looked like this:

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"The King of the Naga Fireball's are a natural, unexplained phenomena. There have been no extensive studies or research done which have either proved or disproved such phenomena. The Naga Fireball's shoot up from beneath the flowing waters of the Mekong River, red and pink in colour, climb into the air some ten to fifty meters high before disappearing without noise or smoke. It is a truly strange and inexplicable sight but beautiful and wonderful to see.
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The red and pink fireballs are believed to come from the underwater city of Muang Badan, sent by the King of the Nagas to celebrate the last day of the three-month long Buddhist lent. They appear from both sides of the river, Thai and Laos at random, sometimes near to the shore or sometimes in the middle of the river. Their supernatural appearance is unlike anything that could be man-made.
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The times for them to appear are from 6 p.m. to 2.a.m. on the night of the full moon of the 11th lunar month. The total number of fireballs appearing is unpredictable - sometime only fifty but more often than not one hundred to a thousand or more.
 
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