Work Permits for Writing

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I wanna write a book, but on advice of counsel, I'm told not to.

As a Visa holder in the Kingdom of Thailand I must abide by the restrictions of that Visa. One of those is that I do not engage in Work without a permit. My Visa, based on marriage, permits me to apply for a permit, but does not in itself grant a permit to work. I've been reading up on various sites for a while and cannot see a way around this.

Definition of Work in Thailand from AI
While it might seem straightforward for a freelance book author in Thailand to work without a salary-based work permit, the reality is that the Thai Foreign Employment Act defines "working" broadly to include exercising one's knowledge or skills, regardless of whether a salary or other benefits are received. Therefore, even if a book author is not receiving a direct salary, working as a book author in Thailand generally requires a valid work permit to avoid fines, imprisonment, and deportation.

In other words, I need a 'Work Permit' to write. Period. Writing is not on the prohibited list, so no problem. Right? I'll just get one. However...

I looked into the possibly of classifying my writing as a Hobby, as a loophole. I'm told no dice. There is apparently no pathway set up for expats not working for an established organization or company. They want to know for whom you are working. Can't be yourself unless you have a company established (and that's a whole different kettle of fish,)

Setting myself up as a company would mean even more of a hassle and its own set of regulations. All so I can sit in the dark and type on a computer. So, that is out as an avenue.

The other option is to just keep my head down and not tell them. I mean, I could get by and not self-report when I apply for ISBN through the Kingdom's National Library (Thailand's version of Bowker). After all, who's going to see me in my cubby 'playing' on my computer. ISBNs are not required for e-books or are provided free by Amazon (though many of the other POD companies providing 'free' ISBN require US Residency). Right?

Yeah... no.

We're not talking about a small fine if caught. I'm risking deportation. and that means loss of Wife as she would likely not be permitted to follow immediately (if at all), loss of Home, everything I've built up here and starting over in the US on nothing but my Social Security income. Writing is important to me, but I do have my priorities straight.

So, until further notice, I'm officially and publicly stating that I am not writing. More, I expect to pay my Lawyer exorbitant amounts of money to be told that it will take even more exorbitant amounts to be permitted to write -for a year- or maybe not. Meeting with him for break downs mid-August. Hopefully, there is a non-salary-based permit buried in the law somewhere. But I doubt it.

Does anyone here have any experience applying for this type of work permit? Yeah, I've scheduled with the lawyer, but I'd still like to know what I'm getting into and the kinds of general questions I should be asking before shelling out the bucks.

-sterling
 
Please don't take this wrong, but just who do you think is going to be watching.?
Here is the big question the test is. Are you being paid ? You are not being paid you are not volunteering your service.
It is not a problem If you take your logic one step forward a foreigner could not even do anything for him self. You are being just a little silly.
In what world do you think Immigration cares if you write a book?

Oh Mr Lawyer can I pay you big mobs of money for nothing. I certainly know the answer.
 
Got a mate over here who is writing a book but its being done online with someone in UK managing the process, so he has no worries about a WP (rightly or wrongly).
 
Got a mate over here who is writing a book but its being done online with someone in UK managing the process, so he has no worries about a WP (rightly or wrongly).
Now that is funny. The keystrokes are done in Thailand on a remote system and appear in another country. So that is OK then ;;bones;;
Has anybody wired up a power socket ? That's it your done!

Dude being lead away onto a plane in handcups. What you do feller. Mopped my floors.
Turned out was not my floor not my mop and most of all not my JOB!
 
Got a mate over here who is writing a book but its being done online with someone in UK managing the process, so he has no worries about a WP (rightly or wrongly).

As long as he trusts his buddy, I guess. He avoids evidence saved to his PC and does not tip his hand on his location, but in doing it that way he's got no proof of copyright.

-sterling

Please don't take this wrong, but just who do you think is going to be watching.?
Here is the big question the test is. Are you being paid ? You are not being paid you are not volunteering your service.
It is not a problem If you take your logic one step forward a foreigner could not even do anything for him self. You are being just a little silly.
In what world do you think Immigration cares if you write a book?

Please don't take this wrong either, but what kind of moron thinks the issue is someone peering through a window and seeing me while writing in my dark little cubby?

More an issue of outing myself when applying for ISBN at the Thai National Library, a branch of the government, and I have to literally tell them I've written this book --while in country, --or lie. Perhaps you are more comfortable with that, than I.

-sterling
 
Now that is funny. The keystrokes are done in Thailand on a remote system and appear in another country. So that is OK then ;;bones;;
Has anybody wired up a power socket ? That's it your done!

Dude being lead away onto a plane in handcups. What you do feller. Mopped my floors.
Turned out was not my floor not my mop and most of all not my JOB!
He was quite friendly with the last King, wonder if that makes a difference????? (when he was a pop star in the 60's)
 
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