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[CO-CO]

As is this one:

"You must get your paper form and one of your 2 print photos signed if you’re applying for ....

• renewal of a passport if your appearance has changed and you cannot be recognised from your existing passport"

But it has been ignored (in my experience).

Nick and I make the judgement on renewals that we deal with. At a guess, less than 1 in 10 require certification .

As an aside, my friend Rik would have been one such case.... he has lost 48 kilos in just over a year. When leaving Thailand on a recent visit to the UK he was almost denied exit. The immigration officer at Swampy said “this picture is not you”.....in total seriousness. He called over a colleague who agreed: it was only when a senior officer took a look did they accept it was Rik.

 

[Yorky]

Fortunately, you are not living in area covered by Jomtien immigration.

Just bite the bullet @nomad97 and lodge ฿ 800,000.00 in a fixed deposit account and 50% of the hassle will go away.

 

[CO-CO]

Of all the websites that I've checked (not only gov.uk) they are generally consistent with the fact that -

"Photo size must be 45 millimetres (mm) high x 35 millimetres (mm) wide.

1. A close-up of your head and shoulders so that your head, from the bottom of your chin to your crown is between 29mm and 34mm high."

Irrelevant of whether it is submitted on paper or digitally.

That is not what your earlier post suggested for digital photos. They were not head and shoulders and I think they were measured in pixels not mm.

 

[Yorky]

That is not what your earlier post suggested for digital photos. They were not head and shoulders and I think they were measured in pixels not mm.

I didn't suggest anything. Apparently the "Passport Office" is able to trim your images to the required size (if applying by post) so my full length body photo of 1.50 m x 2.00 m would be perfectly adequate. But not if applying in person in Thailand.

 

[CO-CO]

I didn't suggest anything. Apparently the "Passport Office" is able to trim your images to the required size (if applying by post) so my full length body photo of 1.50 m x 2.00 m would be perfectly adequate. But not if applying in person in Thailand.

Nobody could trim a 1.5m x 2m body photo to meet requirements....

The passport office don’t trim photos, non-compliant photos would get rejected by VfS, the processing agents.

 

[Yorky]

Nobody could trim a 1.5m x 2m body photo to meet requirements....

The passport office don’t trim photos, non-compliant photos would get rejected by VfS, the processing agents.

Actually a 1.5 m x 2.00 m full body photo could probably be trimmed quite adequately to achieve a 35 mm x 45 mm head shot within the requirements for the online submissions. Given a little time (tomorrow) I shall research same. However, I may not have much time as I shall be out checking out new laptops with my new found wealth.

 

[CO-CO]

Actually a 1.5 m x 2.00 m full body photo could probably be trimmed quite adequately to achieve a 35 mm x 45 mm head shot within the requirements for the online submissions. Given a little time (tomorrow) I shall research same. However, I may not have much time as I shall be out checking out new laptops with my new found wealth.

Unless you are totally deformed I wager it would be impossible to extract a compliant 35mm x 45mm picture.

Good luck with the laptop hunt.

 

[nomad97]

Just bite the bullet @nomad97 and lodge ฿ 800,000.00 in a fixed deposit account and 50% of the hassle will go away.

Now that's an idea. Got ฿ 800,000.00 you can let me have?

 

[Prakhonchai Nick]

You lot have been going hammer and tongs overnight whilst I have been having my beauty sleep.

Just to confirm, I find that I probably countersign half of the passport photos that are submitted by me to VFS. Maybe not all necessary, but with the time needed to renew, the fact that many applicants leave renewal to the last minute (ie only 6/7 weeks before next immigration visit) it is best to be safe, than have the application rejected.

 

[nomad97]

You lot have been going hammer and tongs overnight whilst I have been having my beauty sleep.

Just to confirm, I find that I probably countersign half of the passport photos that are submitted by me to VFS. Maybe not all necessary, but with the time needed to renew, the fact that many applicants leave renewal to the last minute (ie only 6/7 weeks before next immigration visit) it is best to be safe, than have the application rejected.

 

[Yorky]

Just to confirm, I find that I probably countersign half of the passport photos that are submitted by me to VFS. Maybe not all necessary, but with the time needed to renew, the fact that many applicants leave renewal to the last minute (ie only 6/7 weeks before next immigration visit) it is best to be safe, than have the application rejected.

I agree. Particularly as it costs nowt.

 

[Yorky]

Nobody could trim a 1.5m x 2m body photo to meet requirements....

 

[CO-CO]

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I think you will that fails on the chin to crown criteria.


.... also, that is not a photo of you.

 

[nomad97]

Not so. I found a copy of the TM 30 that she submitted 4 years ago. What I have said previously is that my wife has been given forms to fill-in while they processed my application. However, I did not know what forms these were but guessed they may have been a TM 30. This year I have filled in the TM 30 and I will report back after my visit next week.

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To take up on a point made by @CO_CO, "I think you will need a bank letter (standard letter confirming that you have an account); other immigration offices have asked for a bank letter CERTIFYING that you receive 65,000 Baht p.m."

I have a Passbook, therefore I have an account. As to certifying my income, I do not know how the bank can or would want to provide such a letter. Previously, I have had to talk long and hard to persuade a sub-manager to certify that I was still alive and kicking (Pension Life Certificate). He really did not want to put his name and a stamp to that. To ask him to certify that I transfer in excess of 65,000 baht per month, for the previous 12 months, is to my knowledge asking the impossible. Firstly, such information is not available in the local bank. I applied for my 12-month bank statement at the beginning of the week, Monday morning, in the Bangkok Bank at Robinson's. I had to produce my passport, bank passbook and she also took my yellow tabien baan. All were copied. The charge is 200 baht for the statement. She then told me to return in one week, next Monday, to collect the statement. This is pretty much par for the course as the request has to go to Bangkok, Head Office, where I understand the statement is printed before being returned to Surin in the company mailbag. In past years I have highlighted each transfer from the UK on the statement and made a tabulated spreadsheet showing the total for each month and a summary for the year. This has been accepted previously by Surin Immigration. I don't see a bank manager in Surin going to this trouble to identify the funds transferred each month and, more to the point, I do not believe he would certify that I transfer in excess of 65,000 baht each month. Nor would he put his name to the letter to state this to be a true (similar to the old Embassy Letter). It would be "more than my job's worth" to quote a favourite saying.

P.S. My annual statement usually runs to 12 pages or more.

My wife has just spoken to Surin Immigration with regards to our visit next week and, in particular, as to what financial information is required to be submitted. The I.O. stated that he needed the 12-month bank statement from the Thai bank account and proof of income in the UK, i.e. Certificates of Income from the pension providers or other sources of income. He went on to say, he only needed proof of 65,000 baht per month and, if my income was more than that, it was not necessary to show additional information. When asked about obtaining a letter from the bank, he said that was not necessary for a letter. And there you have it. We are virtually prepared for the visit next week. Only need to collect the bank statement on Monday.

 

[Coffee]

He went on to say, he only needed proof of 65,000 baht per month and, if my income was more than that, it was not necessary to show additional information. When asked about obtaining a letter from the bank, he said that was not necessary for a letter. And there you have it. We are virtually prepared for the visit next week. Only need to collect the bank statement on Monday.

I am delaying commencing my Social Security (pension) until I'm a tad older (ie: 66+ ...possibly 70 if I'm lucky).

Shyte's on the wrong foot again.
Example: So if all goes bollocks up for you healthwise IMM is alright with you receiving B65,000/month for covering a medical emergency understanding that doesn't cover much.
Moi must maintain a B800,000 minimum for months on end for the same extension of visa because I haven't started the pension process.
Does this sound equitable ? Of course not.
And if one is married what is the minimum monthly pension required to extend ones visa based on marriage...(35,000) ?

Maybe I'll tell Ford I'm not buying the new vehicle and let them talk with Immigration.

 

[nomad97]

I am delaying commencing my Social Security (pension) until I'm a tad older (ie: 66+ ...possibly 70 if I'm lucky).

Shyte's on the wrong foot again.

1. Example: So if all goes bollocks up for you healthwise IMM is alright with you receiving B65,000/month for covering a medical emergency understanding that doesn't cover much.

No understanding at all. Medical insurance not required for extending your permission to stay.



2. Moi must maintain a B800,000 minimum for months on end for the same extension of visa because I haven't started the pension process.

Not necessarily. @Bandersnatch reported differently. See https://www.surinfarang.com/forum/threads/retirement-extension-in-surin.26681/page-2#post-285872



3. Does this sound equitable ? Of course not.

No comment.


4. And if one is married what is the minimum monthly pension required to extend ones visa based on marriage...(35,000) ?

Based on marriage: A monthly income of 40,000 baht per month is required.


5. Maybe I'll tell Ford I'm not buying the new vehicle and let them talk with Immigration.

With all your millions, I am sure you can afford the new car and meet the 800K in the bank criteria.

 

[Coffee]

Shyte's on the wrong foot again.

1. Example: So if all goes bollocks up for you healthwise IMM is alright with you receiving B65,000/month for covering a medical emergency understanding that doesn't cover much.

No understanding at all. Medical insurance not required for extending your permission to stay.

So what is the real point IMM is trying to make for keeping 800,000 seasoned in a Thai bank ?

Obviously not to afford Char Sui #3 or 4 on a daily basis ?
Wasn't the presumption to take care of an emergency.

If one get's a serious medical malady will the hospital accept that monthly payment with the possibility of the foreigner vamoosing from Thailand in case of an onerous expense.

That's my point.

As for millions...are you tripping (unless you're talking THB )... ????

 

[Yorky]

I think you will that fails on the chin to crown criteria.

I wonder how Jean Shrimpton would have got on with her passport photograph?



BTW, she's 77 years old today.

 

[Coffee]

Racquel Welch is 79.

U would if U could...(which U can't.)

 

[CO-CO]

I wonder how Jean Shrimpton would have got on with her passport photograph?

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BTW, she's 77 years old today.

I'd give her one......................................... passport, that is.....