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Wombat
Guest
I can see Coffee's point, what are you talking about Yorky?
Getting back on track, it says 2 months at (4).
Getting back on track, it says 2 months at (4).
Yorky
Fullritis Member
Clause 6 b) doesn't make sense.
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Wombat
Guest
OK, got it now.
Yorky
Fullritis Member
Clause 6 is a reference to "old timers" therefore clauses 6 a) and 6 b) are relevant no?
bye bye.
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Wombat
Guest
OK, next question. Using marriage as a reason, does half of the money have to be kept in the bank without spending it like the retirement one?
gotlost
Kap Chong R Us Member
Best that you contact SI directly. And I would suggest that you pay a direct visit and ask the Captain that sets in the far back corner not the helpers.
gotlost
Kap Chong R Us Member
FWIW.. SI did have a packet (about 8 pages) for the marriage extension they would give you to fill out. Some of these pages are in Thai and have to be filled out by your wife. This is another reason to visit SI to pay a visit to SI and get THEIR requirements and your boss gets to visit the Chong Chom Market.
FERET
Surin relic
Interesting you mention that Womby.
After all the BS I went through to get my visa, I was finally able to apply for my retirement visa.
I had well in excess of the required amount in a Thai bank and fronted up to KCI with all the paperwork inc current bank statement.
We were told by old mate that, the bank account had to be a working account with multipul withdrawals and deposits, not just parking the funds.
Yorky
Fullritis Member
When I was using both savings and fixed deposit accounts to verify my ฿800,000.00, the former account had multiple deposits and withdrawals as my monthly pension payments went in and our living expenses came out. The fixed deposit account only moved with the three monthly addition of interest. My impression at that time (rightly or wrongly) was that they wanted proof that your living expenses were provided from overseas and you were not working in Thailand (which, of course, you are not allowed to do with a retirement extension).
gotlost
Kap Chong R Us Member
gotlost
Kap Chong R Us Member
Back then SI aka KCI required this , that was only their requirement as no other it's in Thailand required this. Thats is why I say Wombat needs to go directly to SI and inquire.
Yorky
Fullritis Member
His question has nothing to do with retirement. ZERRO.
Quote FERET: "I was finally able to apply for my retirement visa."
gotlost
Kap Chong R Us Member
For my retirement visa at KCI I have always used having the required sum in a Bangkok Bank Fixed Account, the balance only alters when the fixed term expires and the deposit is rolled over.
I have never been asked for any evidence of how I fund my living expenses - guess I must look too old to work
I have never been asked for any evidence of how I fund my living expenses - guess I must look too old to work
CO-CO
Rather wrinkly & occasionally cantankerous member
The IOs reserve the right to ask how you are spending money in Thailand. Money in a fixed account for the whole 12 months does not tell the full story....... obviously you cannot live on nowt. Very easy to assume that you are working in Thailand to generate living expenses if you can't evidence other activity through, say, a savings account. They say you need 65k p.m. to live on - if it is not coming from a fixed account, it has to come from somewhere.
gotlost
Kap Chong R Us Member
Took this from Nazi Visa.
After a lengthy meeting with senior Immigration officials from Regional 4 district, regarding clarifications of the amendments to Order 138/2557 and the new Order 35/2562, I can confirm the following;
2.18 Marriage extensions.
Funds deposited in a Thai bank.
400K deposited in a Thai bank for 2 months prior to the date of application.
Passbook or bank statement + bank letter as proof.
After the extension is granted you can withdraw part or all funds.
Income method.
1). A minimum income of 40K per month deposited in a Thai bank from overseas for the previous 12 month period. Local passbooks or statements may not confirm overseas payments.
You can request statements (at your local bank branch) for detailed statements from their HQ, itemising foreign transactions as Bahtnet or Foreign TT deposits. Takes approx 5 days to process. + Bank letter.
According to TI, all bank HQ's are already aware of Immigrations requirements for detailed statements showing overseas transfers, which your local branch may not be able to confirm or supply.
2. A certified letter of income from your Embassy
2.22 Retirement extensions.
Funds deposited in a Thai bank.
For the very first application, must prove 800K deposited in a Thai bank for 2 months prior to the date of application, then 3 months after being granted permission.
You can then withdraw up to 400K, but must leave a remaining balance of 400K throughout the year.
For subsequent applications, must prove 800K deposited in a Thai bank for 3 months prior to the date of application, then 3 months after being granted permission.
You can then withdraw up to 400K, but must leave a remaining balance of 400K throughout the year.
Income method.
1). A minimum income of 65K per month deposited in a Thai bank from overseas for the previous 12 month period. Local passbooks or statements may not confirm overseas payments. You can request statements (at your local bank branch) for detailed statements from their HQ, itemising foreign transactions as Bahtnet or Foreign TT deposits. Takes approx 5 days to process. + Bank letter.
According to TI, all bank HQ's are already aware of Immigrations requirements for detailed statements showing overseas transfers, which your local branch may not be able to confirm or supply.
2). A certified letter of income from your Embassy.
Combo method.
Funds and income totalling a minimum of 800,000 per annum.
There is no minimum balance of funds required.
Same seasoning conditions apply as for funds in the bank method. (First application 2 months prior, then 3 months after. Subsequent applications 3 months prior, then 3 months after.)
The important factor for the combo method is that funds deposited and income must not fall below the 800,000 requirement for the year.
Funds deposited of 300K + income of 50K per month.
Funds and income total 900K per annum.
After the seasoning period you can withdraw 100K.
Income of 50K x 12 = 600K + 200K funds = 800K.
Funds deposited of 500K + Income of 40K per month.
Funds and income total 980K per annum.
After the seasoning period you can withdraw 180K.
Income of 40K x 12 = 480K + 320K funds = 800K.
Funds deposited of 600K + income of 60K per month.
Funds and income total 1,320K per annum.
After the seasoning period you can withdraw 520K.
Income of 60K x 12 = 720K + 80K funds = 800K.
For this year only Immigration will use their discretion, depending on the application type, to determine if foreigners are working towards the requirements for 2020 and will give subsequent clarification of requirements expected in 2020.
Immigration will check at your next application date if you have complied with the seasoning periods for the previous year.
Failure to comply with seasoning periods, inadequate funds in the bank, inadequate incomes, or a combination thereof, may result in a refusal of your new extension application.
Hopefully, this may clear up some of the many misunderstanding and various interpretations abounding on the forum.
AND
The commanding officer from Roi Et Immigration and her commanding officer from the regional office in Khon Kaen.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1083740-marriageretirement-interpretations-explained/
After a lengthy meeting with senior Immigration officials from Regional 4 district, regarding clarifications of the amendments to Order 138/2557 and the new Order 35/2562, I can confirm the following;
2.18 Marriage extensions.
Funds deposited in a Thai bank.
400K deposited in a Thai bank for 2 months prior to the date of application.
Passbook or bank statement + bank letter as proof.
After the extension is granted you can withdraw part or all funds.
Income method.
1). A minimum income of 40K per month deposited in a Thai bank from overseas for the previous 12 month period. Local passbooks or statements may not confirm overseas payments.
You can request statements (at your local bank branch) for detailed statements from their HQ, itemising foreign transactions as Bahtnet or Foreign TT deposits. Takes approx 5 days to process. + Bank letter.
According to TI, all bank HQ's are already aware of Immigrations requirements for detailed statements showing overseas transfers, which your local branch may not be able to confirm or supply.
2. A certified letter of income from your Embassy
2.22 Retirement extensions.
Funds deposited in a Thai bank.
For the very first application, must prove 800K deposited in a Thai bank for 2 months prior to the date of application, then 3 months after being granted permission.
You can then withdraw up to 400K, but must leave a remaining balance of 400K throughout the year.
For subsequent applications, must prove 800K deposited in a Thai bank for 3 months prior to the date of application, then 3 months after being granted permission.
You can then withdraw up to 400K, but must leave a remaining balance of 400K throughout the year.
Income method.
1). A minimum income of 65K per month deposited in a Thai bank from overseas for the previous 12 month period. Local passbooks or statements may not confirm overseas payments. You can request statements (at your local bank branch) for detailed statements from their HQ, itemising foreign transactions as Bahtnet or Foreign TT deposits. Takes approx 5 days to process. + Bank letter.
According to TI, all bank HQ's are already aware of Immigrations requirements for detailed statements showing overseas transfers, which your local branch may not be able to confirm or supply.
2). A certified letter of income from your Embassy.
Combo method.
Funds and income totalling a minimum of 800,000 per annum.
There is no minimum balance of funds required.
Same seasoning conditions apply as for funds in the bank method. (First application 2 months prior, then 3 months after. Subsequent applications 3 months prior, then 3 months after.)
The important factor for the combo method is that funds deposited and income must not fall below the 800,000 requirement for the year.
Funds deposited of 300K + income of 50K per month.
Funds and income total 900K per annum.
After the seasoning period you can withdraw 100K.
Income of 50K x 12 = 600K + 200K funds = 800K.
Funds deposited of 500K + Income of 40K per month.
Funds and income total 980K per annum.
After the seasoning period you can withdraw 180K.
Income of 40K x 12 = 480K + 320K funds = 800K.
Funds deposited of 600K + income of 60K per month.
Funds and income total 1,320K per annum.
After the seasoning period you can withdraw 520K.
Income of 60K x 12 = 720K + 80K funds = 800K.
For this year only Immigration will use their discretion, depending on the application type, to determine if foreigners are working towards the requirements for 2020 and will give subsequent clarification of requirements expected in 2020.
Immigration will check at your next application date if you have complied with the seasoning periods for the previous year.
Failure to comply with seasoning periods, inadequate funds in the bank, inadequate incomes, or a combination thereof, may result in a refusal of your new extension application.
Hopefully, this may clear up some of the many misunderstanding and various interpretations abounding on the forum.
AND
The commanding officer from Roi Et Immigration and her commanding officer from the regional office in Khon Kaen.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1083740-marriageretirement-interpretations-explained/