Thawing UK Frozen Pensions

Prakhonchai Nick

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Not true.


As I have just learned, DWP life certificates are not sent to UK addresses.


(even if they were you would be using the address of a trusted friend/relative).


A pensioner will never lose his pension payment. In the case of non-return of a life certificate the payments are suspended until DWP receive a call that satisfies them that the claimant is still alive.
It seems they are sent to UK addresses, though infrequently. Have recently been asked to help a farang whose pension stopped being paid to his UK bank account last April Seems they sent a Life Certificate to his last known UK address, which he vacated some years ago, and he failed to advise a new address (his son's). I have provided advice, but its his problem to resolve.

As to whether a state pension is a benefit or an entitlement is irrelevant when it comes to making a claim. The payment is subject to conditions including the number of NI contributions made, and the residence of the claimant. The conditions, rightly or wrongly, clearly state that the pension is frozen if one lives in Thailand or a number of other countries! To lie on the claim form that one lives in a country where it is not frozen, is quite simply fraud! Prosecuting someone in an overseas country is unlikely, but since the DWP hold the purse strings, one has to do their utmost to try and ensure they do not become aware of your frozen country residence.
 

CO-CO

Rather wrinkly & occasionally cantankerous member
It seems they are sent to UK addresses, though infrequently. Have recently been asked to help a farang whose pension stopped being paid to his UK bank account last April Seems they sent a Life Certificate to his last known UK address, which he vacated some years ago, and he failed to advise a new address (his son's). I have provided advice, but its his problem to resolve.

As to whether a state pension is a benefit or an entitlement is irrelevant when it comes to making a claim. The payment is subject to conditions including the number of NI contributions made, and the residence of the claimant. The conditions, rightly or wrongly, clearly state that the pension is frozen if one lives in Thailand or a number of other countries! To lie on the claim form that one lives in a country where it is not frozen, is quite simply fraud! Prosecuting someone in an overseas country is unlikely, but since the DWP hold the purse strings, one has to do their utmost to try and ensure they do not become aware of your frozen country residence.

I don't believe they are sent to UK addresses.

I would like to hear from a pensioner with a UK address who HAS ever received one.

The only reference to "you MAY receive a life certificate" is on the DWP website regarding moving overseas.
 

Yorky

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I don't believe they are sent to UK addresses.

I would like to hear from a pensioner with a UK address who HAS ever received one.

The only reference to "you MAY receive a life certificate" is on the DWP website regarding moving overseas.

My take on this is that DWP only appears to send "are you still alive" letters to pensioners who live overseas. The pensioners who I know who live in the UK don't receive them.
 

CO-CO

Rather wrinkly & occasionally cantankerous member
My take on this is that DWP only appears to send "are you still alive" letters to pensioners who live overseas. The pensioners who I know who live in the UK don't receive them.
That is correct Yorky.
 
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