Extending 'permission to stay' at Kap Cheong

Some while back, somebody reported that the IO boss said they were going to visit all the foreigners in Surin. What about those of us who live in Buriram or Si Saket?

Well, I was only hoping!
 
isanbirder said:
Some while back, somebody reported that the IO boss said they were going to visit all the foreigners in Surin. What about those of us who live in Buriram or Si Saket?

Well, I was only hoping!
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I think Sisaket is safe; Buriram I think maybe not.
 
I still have some time, just can hope all the BS blows over ... got to do my retirement extention before the 18th of march and I live in the province of Buriram.
 
Croc said:
I still have some time, just can hope all the BS blows over ... got to do my retirement extention before the 18th of march and I live in the province of Buriram.
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I certainly hope that it does. Mine's due mid June. I missed the start of this nonsense by about a week!
 
I agree IB, it is very unlikely that it will blow over as there will be loss of face for the instigators. It will just go on and on until there are no IO's left who know why it was effected in the first place (although it appears there are currently not many left).
 
nomad97 said:
Aaah! Perhaps Monsieur Cafe was offered the role of undercover agent, or spy, to point out all the Farangs in Surin who are bending the rules and are either on overstay, commiting crimes, illegally working or not living with their wives. Only Coffee knows and only he can tell.
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And sometimes make the tea?
 
Yorky said:
I hear what you say, but if you remember Joe was told that it was all being effected because of the bombing of the Erawan Shrine.

Anyway,

1. I have been living at the same address for over 15 years and have religiously reported my address every c. 90 days together with a Thai national who has verified same.

2. I have not been accused nor convicted of committing any crimes in any country in which I've lived/worked (other that minor traffic offences).

3. I am not and have not been engaged in any work in Thailand without the necessary permit (although I did a 3 day job in Bangkok 10 years ago that no-one (until now) knows about.)

4. Since 2001 my extension of stay has been based upon retirement.

So why will I be subjected to this ridiculous ineffective nonsense when I next decide to apply?

As an aside, how many culprits committing one or all of those 4 deadly sins have been caught since 30th June 2015?
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Simple sir - why don't you inquire at KCI or inquire anytime you have face-time with a KCI-IO ?
They are more than accommodating when they're not swamped.

The more expats that inquire the less KCI will think we're just a bunch of simpletons , no longer sheeple to be herded and reamed just because of our or others given familial circumstances.
Let's face it , the cream of wealthy OAP expat crop do not MAKE THEIR LIVES ON THESE SHORES particularly among the rice paddies by choice.
 
Coffee said:
Simple sir - why don't you inquire at KCI or inquire anytime you have face-time with a KCI-IO ?
They are more than accommodating when they're not swamped.
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I definitely intend to do that when it's my turn to face the black capped judge.

[I lived/worked in the Philippines for 3 months and found it quite pleasant]
 
Personally, I don't buy the Erewan bombing connection (although I don't dispute that Joe was told that).

The home visits out of KCI started before 17 August and (by all accounts on other forums/here) they remain the main instigators of such diligence. This is not routinely happening elsewhere.

The local boys in brown suggested that they had been told to be aware of where their long-term Farangs were. That make sense and, once again, I believe in the principle of you have nothing to hide if you have done nothing wrong.

My gripe remains one of inconsistency regarding the application of the 'rules'. For things like satisfying immigration requirements for extensions I like 'black and white', I like to know exactly where I stand and exactly what I need to provide to allow them to tick their boxes.

Equally, Coffee has highlighted the potential of 'the thinking man' being an asset to immigration. I wonder if they could really do a non-Thai-like-thing such as listen to advice. For starters we don't know if we are beginning on the same page and, for sure, I have no idea if we have the same objectives.

I for one, would like to make their job easier by making less work for them. To apply a degree of intelligence I would encourage activities on a risk-assessed basis. e.g. Prakhonchai Nick need only report to a local police station once every 3 years. Yorkie you have done 8 retirement extensions (can't scroll back to check that) you extend every 3 years. Simplistically, once you have done 4 extensions you should go onto a 3 year cycle and after 10 years a 5 year cycle. Still report your address every 90/180 days but do it online at a local police station.
 
CO-CO said:
Personally, I don't buy the Erewan bombing connection (although I don't dispute that Joe was told that).

The home visits out of KCI started before 17 August and (by all accounts on other forums/here) they remain the main instigators of such diligence. This is not routinely happening elsewhere.

The local boys in brown suggested that they had been told to be aware of where their long-term Farangs were. That make sense and, once again, I believe in the principle of you have nothing to hide if you have done nothing wrong.

My gripe remains one of inconsistency regarding the application of the 'rules'. For things like satisfying immigration requirements for extensions I like 'black and white', I like to know exactly where I stand and exactly what I need to provide to allow them to tick their boxes.

Equally, Coffee has highlighted the potential of 'the thinking man' being an asset to immigration. I wonder if they could really do a non-Thai-like-thing such as listen to advice. For starters we don't know if we are beginning on the same page and, for sure, I have no idea if we have the same objectives.

I for one, would like to make their job easier by making less work for them. To apply a degree of intelligence I would encourage activities on a risk-assessed basis. e.g. Prakhonchai Nick need only report to a local police station once every 3 years. Yorkie you have done 8 retirement extensions (can't scroll back to check that) you extend every 3 years. Simplistically, once you have done 4 extensions you should go onto a 3 year cycle and after 10 years a 5 year cycle. Still report your address every 90/180 days but do it online at a local police station.
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This is probably far too sensible to be adopted hereabouts, Coco.
 
Obviously the idea of lengthier extensions for the long-stayers would suit us, but might not suit the system!

One thing I still can't see the point of is that the Police and the IOs are both checking our residences. They are both actually branches of the police; can't they share information? A little man came out from Krasang and filled in a form with the help of Nung and myself, took some photos; couldn't he have sent KC a copy?

It would make much more sense if the IO deployed its obviously excess manpower in winkling out all those who have NOT got their visas through the proper channels.
 
As CO-CO said, "My gripe remains one of inconsistency regarding the application of the 'rules'." I agree, the process for renewing the permission to stay should be 'black and white'. I like to know exactly where I stand and exactly what I need to provide to allow them to appropve my application. This is my one and only bitch with Immigration - nothing is 'black and white' any longer. Each week there seems to be a new twist or turn as to what you have to do. My wife tries to defend their position as the Thai Way but I tell her the same too, "Why don't they publish a guide as to what is required to renew one's permission to stay?" A simple check list of everything required, including originals and number of copies, that Immigration need. In the past, maybe 4 or 5 years ago, they did publish such a guide but those days seem long gone.

If Coffee has been offered a job by the 'big cheese' perhaps he could make this his number one priority - draw up and publish a guide of the procedures for all Farangs to follow, in clear English, and one that includes a complete check list of the documents required.
 
Yorky said:
The visa on which my extension is based was issued in October 2001 so my first extension must have been obtained June 2002.
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You are one year in front of me, my arrival was Dec 31, 2002 and my first extension to remain was granted for Dec 30, 2003. So my renewal this year (the one in process from Dec 30, 2015) is the 15th in succession and without any trips in and out of this lovely country.
 
nomad97 said:
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My wife tries to defend their position as the Thai Way but I tell her the same too, "Why don't they publish a guide as to what is required to renew one's permission to stay?" A simple check list of everything required, including originals and number of copies, that Immigration need. In the past, maybe 4 or 5 years ago, they did publish such a guide but those days seem long gone.

If Coffee has been offered a job by the 'big cheese' perhaps he could make this his number one priority - draw up and publish a guide of the procedures for all Farangs to follow, in clear English, and one that includes a complete check list of the documents required.
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If Coffee had been offered a part-time job perhaps this would NOT BE Immigration's number one priority.
(Listen to SWMBO.)

KCI is only interested in locating those individuals that are clearly playing outside the rules on residing within their Kingdom. They do live among us.

Since Coffee is not anywhere close to being in a "squeezed position", financially, legally or other ; Coffee did not require anything other than to finalize his personal application process for another extension based on retirement.
I felt it best not to entertain any other notion than to put forth the plight (some of the gripes) of straight-shooters over 50 applying for extensions (myself inclusive).

KCI will be the first to tell you that if you have nothing to hide - you have nothing to worry about...at least nothing more than you have already lost by choosing to make your life in LOS.
 
nomad97 said:
If Coffee has been offered a job by the 'big cheese' perhaps he could make this his number one priority - draw up and publish a guide of the procedures for all Farangs to follow, in clear English, and one that includes a complete check list of the documents required.
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However, it will also need to be published in clear Thai (whatever that is) in order that the IOs may be able to understand it also.
 
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