Choam Sa Ngam International Point of Entry.

gotlost said:
According to your link it is NOT. There is an icon in the lower left hand corner, click on it and a satellite image comes up, on that image it shows the the provincial boundary line clearly market which puts CSN inside SURIN.[/QUOTE

I accept what you say. Was the access to the original border crossing within Surin province, before the new crossing point was built? The town of Chong Sa Ngam is well east of the crossing.
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Thats a hard one to tell my best guess after putting a spy glass on the maps is the old check point was in Surin by only a meter or so.
 
"The town of Chong Sa Ngam is well east of the crossing."

No town of that name anywhere on the map. There is a village of Choam about 1.4 km due south of the crossing on the road to Analog Veng. The only thing east of the crossing are a few scattered huts and a serious amount of landmines.:eek::rolleyes:
 
GOT IT!

The new (current) border crossing is on the 2201 which is clearly within Surin province. The former border was east of the 2201. Where the 2201 road bends to the right just before the border crossing there is a left turn, along which the Surin Sisaket provincial boundary runs. This was the road one took 5 years ago to the old border crossing. Go to the end then turn right and the THAI immigration office was some 200 metres along on the left. The Cambodian Immigration office was diagonally opposite. The road on which the 2 immigration offices stood was also the provincial boundary. Close inspection of the map will show that Thai Immi on the left was in Sisaket province. as the provincial boundary (the dotted line) appears to run down the middle of the raod.

So having established the old border crossing was in Sisaket province, and known as the Sisaket crossing, it has now moved a few hundred metres west, which whilst firmly planting it in Surin province, will in all likliehood still be referred to as the Sisaket crossing, and is conceivably still controlled by Sisaket immigration.,
 
Prakhonchai Nick said:
GOT IT!

The new (current) border crossing is on the 2201 which is clearly within Surin province. The former border was east of the 2201. Where the 2201 road bends to the right just before the border crossing there is a left turn, along which the Surin Sisaket provincial boundary runs. This was the road one took 5 years ago to the old border crossing. Go to the end then turn right and the THAI immigration office was some 200 metres along on the left. The Cambodian Immigration office was diagonally opposite. The road on which the 2 immigration offices stood was also the provincial boundary. Close inspection of the map will show that Thai Immi on the left was in Sisaket province. as the provincial boundary (the dotted line) appears to run down the middle of the raod.

So having established the old border crossing was in Sisaket province, and known as the Sisaket crossing, it has now moved a few hundred metres west, which whilst firmly planting it in Surin province, will in all likliehood still be referred to as the Sisaket crossing, and is conceivably still controlled by Sisaket immigration.,
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Odds on it having SSHI in charge is a fair bet but not a give me. It is in SURIN..after further review the call stands Buriram 0. SiSaket 0, Surin 2.;;bad simle;;;;bad simle;;
 
gotlost said:
Odds on it having SSHI in charge is a fair bet but not a give me. It is in SURIN..after further review the call stands Buriram 0. SiSaket 0, Surin 2.;;bad simle;;;;bad simle;;
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Add me onto the Sisaket ‘poll’.
My work colleague is married to a IO there, so I’ll ask her/him today and get back to you.
Has anyone ever seen a Surin IO working there????? I thought so!


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Prakhonchai Nick said:
GOT IT!

The new (current) border crossing is on the 2201 which is clearly within Surin province. The former border was east of the 2201. Where the 2201 road bends to the right just before the border crossing there is a left turn, along which the Surin Sisaket provincial boundary runs. This was the road one took 5 years ago to the old border crossing. Go to the end then turn right and the THAI immigration office was some 200 metres along on the left. The Cambodian Immigration office was diagonally opposite. The road on which the 2 immigration offices stood was also the provincial boundary. Close inspection of the map will show that Thai Immi on the left was in Sisaket province. as the provincial boundary (the dotted line) appears to run down the middle of the raod.

So having established the old border crossing was in Sisaket province, and known as the Sisaket crossing, it has now moved a few hundred metres west, which whilst firmly planting it in Surin province, will in all likliehood still be referred to as the Sisaket crossing, and is conceivably still controlled by Sisaket immigration.,
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Actually it will be know as the Choam Sa Ngam Crossing or CSN.:rolleyes:
 
Ivor the Engine said:
Add me onto the Sisaket ‘poll’.
My work colleague is married to a IO there, so I’ll ask her/him today and get back to you.
Has anyone ever seen a Surin IO working there????? I thought so!


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She says that it’s part of Sisaket Immigration (despite its location). The ‘Grande Fromage’ of Sisaket Immigration is the Boss for those at CSN.


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Ivor the Engine said:
She says that it’s part of Sisaket Immigration (despite its location). The ‘Grande Fromage’ of Sisaket Immigration is the Boss for those at CSN.


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I was quit sure that would be the call.:p:p:p:p:D Only for political reason as it is twice the distance to SSKI as to SI.;;victory;;
 
Ivor the Engine said:
She says that it’s part of Sisaket Immigration (despite its location). The ‘Grande Fromage’ of Sisaket Immigration is the Boss for those at CSN.
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Yet the point of this OP is that those with Surin Province ID cards get a free pass without a Thai passport and those with See-suck-it IDs don't , correct [regardless of which IMM Poo-bah Mak-mak is in charge] ?
 
Coffee said:
Yet the point of this OP is that those with Surin Province ID cards get a free pass without a Thai passport and those with See-suck-it IDs don't , correct [regardless of which IMM Poo-bah Mak-mak is in charge] ?
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Agree and the above fact makes it even more silly.


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Coffee said:
Yet the point of this OP is that those with Surin Province ID cards get a free pass without a Thai passport and those with See-suck-it IDs don't , correct [regardless of which IMM Poo-bah Mak-mak is in charge] ?
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See-suck-its can still cross over at CSN for only 10 baht but only for the day.:D
 
It is not too hard to understand that the crossing was moved into Surin to take advantage of the MOU with Surin and Cambodia agreed due to a common culture and language. Khmer Surin is the dialect of the common region.
 
Been doing research on that crossing and why it is there. Yes the original CSN crossing was where Nick pointed out in 2013. This photo I took September 1 2013 and shows the present day location of the crossing which is now in Surin which is about 400 meters west of the old location. You can see the construction crane for the casino and a line of silver streaks vans. The new immigration facilities had not been built only temp buildings. The free military parking is just to the right. Looking on Google earth it becomes apparent that to upgrade this crossing it needed to be moved to its present location in doing so this gave Thai authorities the opportunity to clean out the old Thai market area and relocate it back down the road by the extent SSKI building. Basically there are no villages on the Thai side of the border west and east of the crossing. On the Cambodian side it is different. If you use the functions of Google Earth and the net you will see what a WESTERN LEADER calls a SHITHOLE on top of the crossing and that casino. The reason I am becoming more convinced of for this crossing being located where it is. is because of Uncle POL. His so called grave sit is about 300 meters east of the entrance of the casino. 14.34123159, 104.059148023 (Pol Pot's grave). The town of Anlong Veng is only 15km down the road. This town is the remains of the hold outs for the old Khmer Rouge. The location of CSN is the route that this merry bunch of misfits used to escape capture. There is no other reasons that I have found.

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Nice read and good updates about the fees. I will do my next borderrun there and try the new public bus ( transport ) connection. Sisaket Bus terminal to the Border Chong sang ngam.
 
NongFrank said:
Nice read and good updates about the fees. I will do my next borderrun there and try the new public bus ( transport ) connection. Sisaket Bus terminal to the Border Chong sang ngam.
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Give us an update on the bus service when you can. Sounds like there maybe more business for CSN.
 
The image is from Google Earth taken at GPS 14.4170076208, 104.062169225 which is on highway 2341 before killer hill. If you look just to the right of the power poll you will see a notch in the Dangrek Mountains. That notch is Choam Sa Ngam Pass this pass is also the dividing line between SSK & Surin Province and the pass is also the main drainage and fill into the Huai Samran Reservor just below the pass. The county line runs from the center of the pass down through this reservoir. CSN is just to the right of center of this notch in Surin.

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